Although, for me, I really think that the medium isn’t as important as the physical act of taking your time to procure something special. This could be a card with a little note in it (sent in the mail is even better), or making something. I guess it depends how creatively challenged you are, but it’s not so much “flowers” as “anything that causes you, at some point, to consider them and make an effort.”

I think you and I agree on this, but I should probably clarify…

I of course discourage people from being false. It will only bite you in the ass down the line. But, when making change withing yourself, isn’t acting against your character kinda the point?

I can see where it looks like I’m suggesting to “fake it till you make it”, but where I’m really coming from is, “If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got.”

…if someone doesn’t do it from the heart but rather as an investment towards a goal or maintenance I question the quality/morality of it.

Yeah, that kinda occurred to me in between drafts, to which I added the last sentence in the paragraph about real flowers.

omg, RACIST! :p

Maybe to some, but where I grew up in So. CA, those guys are more common to street corners than fire hydrants. :p

I look at it this way, you do what you can. Your just one man (or woman) and you can only do so much to get someones attention. Plus its a learning experience. Even if you fail miserably trying to get the attention of someone else, your doing more than the guy who looks at a girl and gave up instantly knowing they dont wanna put any effort into that and they might miss out on something.

Ill admit, I do act like the latter at times and im not one that has to hit on every girl in the universe, im one that will make a move to ones i have an interest in once I know something about them that interest me.

Only thoughts I had were:
1) I wonder about advice like this encouraging people to act out of character or to put up a false front. It’s a good habit for sure, but if someone doesn’t do it from the heart but rather as an investment towards a goal or maintenance I question the quality/morality of it.

2) I’ve adopted Zeonic’s “let chips fall where they may” attitude and grown out of the “going out of my way” mindset. That is not to say DO NOTHING, it is important to show you care and these feelings should spring naturally anyway, but kind of what I said earlier that it’s important to stay true to one’s self and that happiness with one’s self takes precedence over seeking it with/in others. Or to put it another way, if you don’t have love for yourself, what do you have to give to someone else?

And lastly… “that sketchy Guatemalan guy at the intersection”
omg, RACIST! :p

So if super eurobeat pop star sensation Dave Rodgers can write music about setting his lovers desire on fire while he travels into space to the sun because its his baby, then I would say arson can work for love.

What do you MEAN Arson isn’t romantic?

To partially adopt your car analogy, I’m the guy who likes to look under a dude’s hood and proclaim, “Well, there’s your problem.” (I also laugh whenever they say it on MythBusters.)

And see, maybe part of my issue as well is I just need to learn how to SHUT UP! I didnt mean to sound outta line, but for my own good, I dont need the wrath of M or any other female listener to go off on me. So, my bad.

I mean, for me its like “if it happens that cool but if not whatever” kinda thing. Im not obsessed over her by all means, it would be nice if it did happen, but chances are, no.

Right now if I run into her we say hey and thats about it, but really nothing else. And im the type of guy when i put in something and i know that it wont get me anywhere, ill let it go.

Plus the area im in i can best describe as a “used car lot for women.” It seems when one owner leaves their woman, in no time, someone is there to jack that ride. And i have to remind myself of that “somewhere out there, that girl is driving some guy crazy” quote and forget it.

I say drop this girl… Completely, if possible. You don’t want to put yourself through that kind of hassle when you’ve got better things to do.

Most of my attitude toward dating comes from Kenny Rogers’s The Gambler:

You gotta know when to hold ‘em.
Know when to fold ‘em.
Know when to walk away.
And know when to run.

No sense continuing to throw emotional coins into something that isn’t going to pay off nearly as much as what you’ve put in.

I did give a rose to this girl I was (maybe still) interested in back around valentines day, and I got her a card about feeling better I think, but sometime later when I asked her out for dinner, she said she had a BF. Of course, we still talk so its like my best chance with her is being the “rebound guy” if something does happen.